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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://fabiokung.com/2008/07/26/revising-my-opinion-about-spring-framework/#comment-341</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah I also consider Spring is very worth to consider. But it should be done with good control, else you can get it quite wrong too. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hasith.net/2009/11/spring-silver-bullet.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This article&lt;/a&gt; also discuss quite good information on how important it is to be in control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I also consider Spring is very worth to consider. But it should be done with good control, else you can get it quite wrong too. <a href="http://www.hasith.net/2009/11/spring-silver-bullet.html" rel="nofollow">This article</a> also discuss quite good information on how important it is to be in control.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexM</title>
		<link>http://fabiokung.com/2008/07/26/revising-my-opinion-about-spring-framework/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AlexM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your blog is interesting! 
 
Keep up the good work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog is interesting! </p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: leandro</title>
		<link>http://fabiokung.com/2008/07/26/revising-my-opinion-about-spring-framework/#comment-73</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like Spring!

http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.5.x/reference/dynamic-language.html#dynamic-language-beans-jruby]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Spring!</p>
<p><a href="http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.5.x/reference/dynamic-language.html#dynamic-language-beans-jruby" rel="nofollow">http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.5.x/reference/dynamic-language.html#dynamic-language-beans-jruby</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aldrin Leal</title>
		<link>http://fabiokung.com/2008/07/26/revising-my-opinion-about-spring-framework/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aldrin Leal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fabio,

I like spring, however I consider it overkill for small projects. The size of its codebase gives me a slight impression it is overweight, in comparison.

Another thing which amuses me is the fact that Spring became de de-facto option for J2EE. I don&#039;t think Pico, Guice, Hivemind, or even plexus (which I consider the second most used - Think Maven2) being options. I think this architectural myopia, among other things, brings me a feeling of lack or alternatives. 

Until someone play Gavin King and show it could be done differently. OTOH, I expect Spring to be more granular, with dependencies becoming smaller, thus letting me use a choose-what-you-need approach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabio,</p>
<p>I like spring, however I consider it overkill for small projects. The size of its codebase gives me a slight impression it is overweight, in comparison.</p>
<p>Another thing which amuses me is the fact that Spring became de de-facto option for J2EE. I don&#8217;t think Pico, Guice, Hivemind, or even plexus (which I consider the second most used &#8211; Think Maven2) being options. I think this architectural myopia, among other things, brings me a feeling of lack or alternatives. </p>
<p>Until someone play Gavin King and show it could be done differently. OTOH, I expect Spring to be more granular, with dependencies becoming smaller, thus letting me use a choose-what-you-need approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiago Silveira</title>
		<link>http://fabiokung.com/2008/07/26/revising-my-opinion-about-spring-framework/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiago Silveira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ROFL. The Wikipedia article says:

&quot;For example, a team using Apache Struts to develop a banking web site can focus on how account withdrawals are going to work rather than how to control navigation between pages in a bug-free manner.&quot;

I think when we were in Germany you and I didn&#039;t write the kind of software that really needs all that boilerplate. Maybe you&#039;re writing larger stuff now? Of course, Spring 2.5 is way ahead of Spring 2.1, that counts. 

Just like developing with Struts involves hours spent debugging glitches in &quot;navigation between pages&quot;, developing with Spring involves hours spent with stuff completely unrelated to the task at hand. There&#039;s a point of break-even, when the overhead starts to compensate, and it is project-specific.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL. The Wikipedia article says:</p>
<p>&#8220;For example, a team using Apache Struts to develop a banking web site can focus on how account withdrawals are going to work rather than how to control navigation between pages in a bug-free manner.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think when we were in Germany you and I didn&#8217;t write the kind of software that really needs all that boilerplate. Maybe you&#8217;re writing larger stuff now? Of course, Spring 2.5 is way ahead of Spring 2.1, that counts. </p>
<p>Just like developing with Struts involves hours spent debugging glitches in &#8220;navigation between pages&#8221;, developing with Spring involves hours spent with stuff completely unrelated to the task at hand. There&#8217;s a point of break-even, when the overhead starts to compensate, and it is project-specific.</p>
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